Operation Ore
commentary

IPCC
Interesting statistics
A question for visitors to the site
Freedom of speech
Politics of Operation Ore
The cost of Operation Ore

IPCC (Independent Police Complaints Commission)

http://www.ipcc.gov.uk

The IPCC, a government department responsible for processing complaints against the police, were contacted regarding the criminal allegations submitted, requesting details of how long is a reasonable delay before a reply can be expected. A reply has now been received as follows;

We normally advise members of the public that they should submit their complaint within one year.
Hope this helps.

A reply was been sent as follows:

The complaints in question relate to matters that are both historical and ongoing at this time, the relevance of you comment is therefore not understood.

I would be grateful if you would therefore clarify your position in relation to these issues.

Background

Following Lord Scarman's Inquiry into the Brixton riots and the MacPherson Inquiry into the death of Stephen Lawrence, the PCA was renamed to the IPCC to restore public confidence in the police, replacing the discredited PCA (Police Complaints Authority), which stifled rather than dealt with public complaints.

The original design goals for the IPCC were admirable, an independent authority to investigate the police, avoiding the clearly corrupt notion, that the police could investigate themselves. They stated clearly, that they would not be employing police officers, a revelation to those supporting civil rights and justice. The idea had been mooted for some 20 years, after a black man was violently assaulted in the back of a police van. With no defence against the police, friends and concerned members of the public came to the victim's aid triggering a full blown riot as the police called in reinforcements.

The design goals were abandoned, police officers were not only employed, they head the investigation teams. The blue on blue situation, the corrupt model of the previous authority, is the shape of the organisation today, abandoning the very principles they pledged to uphold.

People who had used this authority were contacted and their complaints and the handling of their complaints were looked at. It confirmed the shortcomings of the previous organisation. A public survey produced the same views; if a policeman killed someone in a car, he needed more training, if a member of the public killed someone in a car, they could be in for a ride of their lives. If a policeman accidentally shot and killed a member of the public, it was a split second decision, yet one click of the mouse or just monitoring a newsgroup, could give rise to up to ten years in jail or even death. Rather than maintaining standards and public confidence, it has all the hallmarks of a smokescreen.

Complaints containing serious criminal allegations have been submitted, in relation to some of the highest ranking police officers in the UK, with the offer of providing substantial further information of an evidential nature. It is perhaps the ultimate test of the IPCC, and signs of failure appear to have already materialised. The complaints include matters that are ongoing at this time.

Interesting statistics

The home office confirmed to parliament as follows:

The total, 1,512 + 5,700 is 7,212.

Let us take that 5,700 number. The number of websites estimated to have used Landslide is also 5,700 (according to the US Department of Justice).

The vast majority of websites at Landslide were just adult websites.

Analysing these statistics with other official statistics including those from NCS, it is clear, the vast majority of potential adult subscribers were hit with a force designed to the destroy their lives (if not kill them) and those of their families (yes it killed some of them too). The Landslide data provided the means to determine which people had their credit cards charged in relation to the illicit sites. Clearly the story of Landslide was a myth, created out of an orchestrated series of lies, and most of them told by those who stood to gain from them.

This is not what the public were told.
This is not what the courts were told.
This is not what the government was told.
This is not what you have seen in the newspapers.

This is the truth, said truth constituting the crime of the century. The figures and the Landslide database alone are evidence of this. What is effectively SOCA, and their new partners, lied like an orchestra. The music was loud and the money staggering.

The whole saga started with the show trial of Thomas Reedy in the States, who was originally sentenced to 1,335 years in jail. The worst demon on earth one would think. The sentence came from 89 image counts, and he got 15 years on each count. For sure a picture tells a large story in Texas, and up to 10 years here in the UK. Three webmasters had linked illicit sites to Landslide's payment system, and Thomas made two reports to the authorities.

Operation Ore is still officially running as at 07/06/2005 having started in May 2002 when 50 people were arrested in co-ordinated raids.

You may wonder why Operation Ore is still ongoing after so long. There were reportedly some very sensitive names on the list of 7,272 potential Landslide subscribers. You might find the answer to that question hidden behind the prime minister's own answer to parliament.

Most people had no imagery at all, as for most of those that did, it was a consequence of adult surfing.

This huge child abuse ring simply did not exist. Thousands of possible adult surfers were busted, many of them victims of credit card fraud, a crime which is generally ignored by the UK Police. This was a gross violation of the Human Rights Act and serious criminal law in the United Kingdom. A number of those implicated in these crimes are named on this site.

We therefore have a question to ask the Prime Minister, a question NCS did not answer following a request under the Freedom Of Information Act.

The police raided the homes of UK citizens illegally, busting families, blighting the future of vast numbers of men, women and children, creating a state of fear and paranoia, corrupting the morals of the United Kingdom as a whole, and spending tax payers money like confetti. These people, as the police coin it, are Crown subjects. It is the Prime Minister's prime duty to protect these subjects, indeed it is his sworn duty to do so. None of those involved in investigating Ore can recall a time in history, when so many men, women and children have been so horrifically abused on British soil.

Operation Ore was unlawful. We therefore have a question to the Prime Minister of our own, and the lies in the press do not form an answer.

HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ARE NOW DEAD TONY BLAIR?

I think this man said he was not counting when it came to Iraq. British subjects this time, and the same question.

Questions for you

Bill Hughes Director General National Crime Squad made the following statement to the Telegraph:

I would like to reassure the public that the police approach has been to identify suspects and categorise them in respect of the potential risk that they pose to children. This has been a painstaking process, as we are aware that accurate reporting is vital, as incorrect allegations could ruin a person's life or damage the prospects of a fair trial.

Such hysteria as it exists is being fuelled by ill-informed and speculative reporting among the less responsible sections of the media.

Landslide had some 5,700 websites connected to it over time, 0.2% verified as illegal and no reason to suppose people in general would even know illicit material was there (ignoring the police's own version of a web page used at the trials to falsely incriminate the accused).

When the credit card transactions were verified, the police had 6,500 names on their target list. Although there was considerable fraud, Landslide recorded which credit cards they had charged to access the illicit sites in question.

In summary, 6,500 names connected to credit charges at Landslide, 5,700 adult sites of which 0.2% were confirmed to contain illicit material. Well over 6,000 were targeted, the lives of more than 50,000 men, women and children damaged.

So here is your the question.

How can well over 5,000 people, principally adult surfers, be busted, and many times that lives damaged, without anyone asking Bill Hughes what was going on and where did that number come from?

And one for Mr Hughes

Where is your accurate reporting?

Bill Hughes is destined to be director general of SOCA (Serious Organised Crime Agency), the British version of the FBI. This will effectively embrace NHTCU (National Hi-Tech Crime Unit), NCS (National Crime Squad), NCIS (National Criminal Intelligence Service) and NISC (National Internet Safety Centre), referred to overall by some as the Ore Squad. Bill Hughes, a former crash-safety engineer with British Leyland rose through the ranks after joining Thames Valley Police in 1975 and is now viewed as one of the most senior police officers in the country.

Freedom of speech

If this site presented lies, it would still have it's place on the Internet. Freedom of speech is a priceless civil liberty and one that should never be surrendered. It is always under attack, but everyone must be allowed their say, for only then can the truth be found and protected. Surrender that civil liberty and you surrender civilisation by surrendering the power from the many to the few.

As it happens, there are some very serious verifiable truths on this site and truth is sometimes controversial. Information on this site is open to challenge and that is already taking place. A corrupt system will attempt to defend itself via corrupt means, but protecting civil liberties is the duty of all people.

Exposing serious criminal corruption in foreign and domestic law enforcement agencies has seldom been a pursuit that has proceeded unchallenged. The consequences of this and other websites is already in play. What is effectively SOCA (Serious Organised Crime Agency), is spending money promoting their cause. Few might question the fact that the police are spending large sums of money on advertising campaigns, using their new partners and contacts and seeking to destroy those that attempt to expose the true story. They have the money and power to destroy people, they showed that very well in Operation Ore. They have also done deals to receive money from ISPs, something that one could view as protection money. Certainly this is not the way an independent and accountable police force would behave.

The information on this site stands, quite a chunk of the truth is to be found here. Operation Ore was by design, a fraudulent and illegal operation. So many of those who took part in it, are suspects in some of the most serious crimes one can have in this nation. More facts may yet emerge in public domain, but what is on this site already, is enough of a message to stand with or without the messengers that brought it here.

It is hard to imagine where this will lead. When every police force throughout the United Kingdom is suspected of involvement in serious crimes against the public, who can possibly be trusted to investigate? It would need a very special tribunal. For such a tribunal to be of any value, such is the scale and depth of corruption of the judicial system, the majority of the members of that panel would have to be comprised of people who have been victims of these crimes.

Just as the FBI lied to their public, their courts, their congress, the UK police did this and more. They formed allegiances, partners they called them. ISP's did not want to be prosecuted so they joined in. Credit card companies did not want to be prosecuted, so they joined in. Child advocates were offered a stake in the revenue from this fraudulent enterprise, so they joined in. The press sold newspapers on the backs of human misery and lies so they joined in. The courts felt it their duty to respond to what they thought the public wanted, not knowing the public had been fed a series of lies and propaganda throughout.

Civil liberties are not some fanciful dream, they define what society is worth. It is the primary role of the police and government to protect human rights, not to assault them. When they fail, it falls on the public to act.

This is not just a simple miscarriage of justice, justice was abandoned. There is not a carpet in the kingdom to sweep this problem under, the truth will out and the consequences of that struggle are already in play.

Politics of Operation Ore

Politics has become a dirty word, but it is synonymous with power and the use of that power, very relevant to understanding how corruption takes a hold.

Capitalism is the prevailing system throughout the world. It is promoted most by the the societies that have profited from it the most. It has numerous practical benefits. People are seldom satisfied and want more and more. Capitalism encourages this, and the more successful people are, the more they earn.

There can be a humanitarian face to capitalism. The more people earn, the more tax can be collected to help those in need, be they old, young, ill, deprived or just unlucky. Capitalism delivers because it provides the money to fund the services to help people.

When capitalism is carefully regulated, it strikes a balance between prosperity and humanity. It uses what is immoral, the lust for money, for moral purposes, the funding of care. The balance is of course the critical issue and the best societies are ones that are governed the least.

When the state exceeds a certain size, it becomes less accountable, state and the public diverge and society is set on the road to ruin. In the UK, we are already quite some way down that road.

An early example was speed enforcement. The police asked to keep a commission from the revenue of speeding tickets, effectively asking to profit from crime. The government consented, and there were clear financial incentives for the government in doing so.

We started this section perhaps, with the greed of mankind, and the police went out and issued tickets by the million. With a licence to print money, they used it, who wouldn't?

The police then became a political force of their own, with their own propaganda machine. They showed pictures of children being hit by cars, in an attempt to demonise speeding as part of antisocial behaviour. This social engineering required propaganda to mask the truth. The raw government statistics told a different story. What was being marketed as a safety campaign, was actually killing people and turned some of the safest roads in Europe into death traps. The trick worked, the police and government got their money and the public were criminalised as of course the law was waved at motorists like a moral instrument.

Using capitalism to feed crime, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy and the police had been corrupted overnight by the lure of money and with it, the days of a healthy 5% year on year road safety dividend were destroyed.

Children were also the marketing weapon of choice in Operation Ore. In a successful economy, with opportunity, education and increasing social economic benefits available to so many, child abuse would automatically decline, again a natural 5% per annum perhaps as has been recorded over some 8 years in the US.

Unlike road accidents, the true figures of child abuse are not easily open to inspection, and astronomical statistics are banded around like facts from those that stand to profit from them. As this is something that typically happens within families and is seldom reported or accurately measured, no real figures can be available. It is however, entirely reasonable to presume, there would be a decline in child abuse in direct proportion to the advance in social economic norms in the UK. It should be noted, a climate of fear has a detrimental effect on society as a whole though it can be useful to those who seek to control it.

Again, dirty politics come into play, very much like the speed cameras. Social services are on performance related pay. That is, the more children they take into care, the more money they get. One doesn't need statistics to know what will happen as a consequence, you pay people to take children away and children will be at risk. Operation Ore brought these issues out into the open and appalling stories emerged of children being stolen without any reason at all and very much to the detriment of the children concerned.

Then it comes to policing in general, performance related pay. Not a reward based on merit where police were paid in inverse proportion to the level of crime, but they were actually rewarded for crime. Again, one does not need to see the statistics, a very simple equation to understand and people were busted and thrown into jail, no matter the nature of the crime if indeed it happened at all. The absurd situation results, where the crime rate can increase inline with the size of the police force.

Then along came Operation Ore. This went beyond what could simply be described as corruption. We have a new police unit, effectively what is to be called SOCA (Serious Organised Crime Agency). Unregulated power, control of information. It was no longer a police unit, it had entered the dirty world of politics as a party on its own. Instead of just being offered money, they campaigned for it and were quite willing to deceive to get their hands on it.

They had a small percentage of people that might have accessed illicit websites drawn from a large list of names. It just needed a huge lie, in fact a series of them, to convert from one list to the other. Landslide was not the big demon it had been made out to be, just one of countless portals, but their credit clearance services made this a profitable enterprise for its owners.

Contentious age imagery had crossed into the general public domain long before and was circulating amongst the pool of adult material on the net. It had been scooped up into private pay adult sites, and many surfers hit it by accident. Of course, if something was there, whatever it was, some people would look at it, and a few dollars on the credit card was not relevant at all. One of the worst parts of the con trick, was to present the contents of hard disks of people surfing the Internet as if this was the contents of their minds. Everything was on the Internet, the worst of it put on display to the court.

SOCA made several funding attempts during Operation Ore, each time after more money. They did not stop at government, they paid for commercial advertising to support their campaign, took what looks like protection money from ISP's and even US defence suppliers made a showing. This was a business, without public accountability or even visibility.

Unlike the speeding, the raw statistics were hidden behind closed doors, together with many other dark secrets. Out of a vast range of websites using Landslide's payment systems, some 0.2% were proven to be dedicated to contentious age imagery, actually well below the norm judging by other sites examined of a similar nature. In effect, one of the little guys had been taken out. There were 7,272 possible adult surfers, 0.2% of sites involved confirmed incriminating but thousands busted and many lives destroyed by each bust. Many more are dead than the public realise, yet few asked questions or dared to speak the truth.

Although only a small percentage of subscribers linked to Landslide had paid to access this material, SOCA had a large list that was worth a lot more money. Landslide was involved in a huge range of types of material, but that is not the story the public was told, the official story was 7,000 or more people had been in a ring of dangerous people suspected of the most appalling crimes and children were at risk.

If that had been true, you might as well bust the entire population of adult surfers. It is not the scale of the crime that SOCA did that is so shocking, but the damage it caused. They hid many of the details, like the number of people killed by it, but courtesy of the Internet, people were able to find each other, information and the truth. The Internet had everything, it was used for purposes good and bad, but it empowered the individual, and overall, it is a resource of such benefit, it should be defended against any entity that seeks to control it.

After an initial exercise in busting people who had accessed contentious age imagery, the lure of money and power was just too great a temptation. A force within a force had the power, means and motive to commit serious crime, and that is what happened. The more they got away with, the more they went after. The self fulfilling prophecy of corrupt capitalism.

A bent speeding ticket, however devastating, does not compare with what was done in Operation Ore and operations of this kind. People were being killed, tortured and destroyed on mass. Civil rights, justice and the law were swept aside, just for money and power.

Huge lies were told, and of course history has been quietly recording the truth of these events. In other parts of Europe, the truth of Operation Ore was told as a joke, but here in the UK, the rule of fear, the power of a corrupt police unit, almost everyone stayed silent. 'Child protection was a priority for the police', a lie in itself, was enough to silence many critics.

When corruption is endemic at the top, it spreads. They obtain more and more power and exert a tighter and tighter grip to protect their ill gotten gains. The people who have sought to expose that truth are already under attack and where this leads and when is in the hands of fate.

All that stands in the way of justice, is a series of orchestrated lies. One way or another, the truth will find a voice no matter how many messengers are attacked or destroyed.

09/11 took out two nations. Not because of what happened, but because of how it was used. After the false scare stories of Terrorism and Landslide, the only thing left is the public at large. It could be you!

An interesting prediction was made back in 2001:

One of the few remaining obstacles to the New World Order is the Internet, because it allows the public to bypass the mass media and have access to unfiltered information and opinion. Therefore, the ninth prediction is that laws will be enacted to restrict the use of the Internet. Child pornography has long been the rallying cry to justify government control. Now, the spectre of terrorism and money laundering will be added to the list. The real object will be to eliminate the voices of dissent.
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The cost of Operation Ore

The government (the tax payer) and private industry have thrown millions into Operation Ore and forward operations of a similar type. One force was reportedly spending one third of its time on these operations. People were thrown out of their jobs, into jail, monitored by police, ss or child advocates. Overall, a staggering cost. Even if the pictures found were morally reprehensible, they were still just pictures, and that should never be forgotten.

It is estimated that the cost of splitting a family is about £80,000, but part of the operational tactics of Ore were to do just that.

The trick was of course, what price has the wellbeing of a child? This was never actually the issue, and never have children been so hideously abused as by Operation Ore. Even if that were not so, no one dared speak the truth. If it cost £10 billion pounds to save the life of a child, should this be paid for? We live in a capitalist system, like it or not, cost is nearly always an issue. A parent might well give everything for their child and more, but governments have a different role to play as they have sustainability and the wellbeing of all to consider.

Despite all the vast amount of money spent, there was one cost that had never been factored in. What is effectively SOCA, were so powerful a police force, so unaccountable, they probably thought they would never get caught and be held accountable to the civil and criminal laws of this land. Similarly with local forces, accountability had been long abandoned by a government hell bent on protecting its interests over those of the people. In practice, with the likes of SOCA at the top, the police in the United Kingdom had become a political party in its own right.

The hidden cost was compensation. Just as illicit imagery appeared on a few web sites linked to the Landslide payment system in 1998, in the same year, a landmark ruling in the UK, cleared the way for compensation claims if police officers failed in their duty to protect members of the public. Previously the police had largely enjoyed immunity from being sued from negligence after Hill vs Chief Constable of South Yorkshire and similar rulings.

In the case of Operation Ore, although gross negligence was clearly evident, the police set out to destroy people's lives rather than protect them. Bill Hughes, Stuart Hyde, Jim Gamble and others, pretended considerable sensitivity and accuracy was being used in these cases. It would be hard to imagine bigger lies. They don't even dare to count the dead.

The grounds for compensation of those hit by Operation Ore are not simply based on negligence. The Operation was supported by a whole series of orchestrated lies. That was just the corruption at what is effectively SOCA, individual forces and officers took part in depraved behaviour, the likes of which is a curse on the whole nation state, and a blight on the reputation of the police service as a whole.

Courtesy of the European Court of Human Rights, there are laws that have supremacy over the whims of government. The police operated outside of UK criminal and civil law, they assaulted people on mass (many more than just the Landslide list), the very opposite of their duty to protect. Instead of protecting society, they corrupted the morals of a whole nation.

So we have another question. What rights does a person have not to be assaulted by the police, and when that happens, and in such a fashion as it did in these cases, what is the price? With compensation, there is always a price.

Let us assume for a moment, the true hideous nature of Operation Ore was fully exposed, there cannot of course be adequate compensation and many are dead. For the sake of argument, let us assume compensation was commensurate with some of the crimes committed by the police, and that each Oree agreed to a one million compensation payment.

Some 5,000 Orees had their rights if not their lives directly assaulted, that is 5 billion pounds. That is without including the real numbers of people blighted by these operations which is many times more than those arrested. That is a problem the government will have to find an answer for. It is a secret, the government, the police, the child advocates, the newspapers and virtually every instrument of state, would no doubt rather the public did not know.

The mood and temper of the public in regard to the treatment of crime and criminals is one of the most unfailing tests of any country. A calm, dispassionate recognition of the rights of the accused and even of the convicted criminal, ... [and] the treatment of crime and the criminal mark and measure the stored-up strength of a nation, and are the sign and proof of the living virtue within it.

- Winston Churchill

Life is the great primary and most precious and comprehensive of all human rights . . . whether it be coupled with virtue honour, and happiness, or with sin, disgrace and misery, the continued possession of it is rightfully not a matter of volition; . . . [it is not] to be deliberately or voluntarily destroyed, either by individuals separately, or combined in what is called Government.

- Frederick Douglass